Using Numbers To Find The Most Difficult NBA Championship Ever Won
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I think biggest thing to think of is how good the team who wins is. If they had an absurd record then it could tank the rest of the leagues scores. Also if u have a wide spread. Yes first round may be super easy but if u face an amazing team in another round it makes it much harder than a bunch of average playoff teams. Particularly lebron and the cavs vs the warriors
This is why analytics don't make any sense.
Lebron the goat still
All the srs actually tells you is how much they won or lost their games by.... What if there were just more trash teams in the early 2000s? (There were.)
Playoffs don’t paint the whole picture at all. There are some super trash 8 seeds out there
This should be used more tho it dose have flaws I clearly shows y lebron should still only be ranked number 2 on alltime list because litterly if u look at his team rating it shows how bad teams he played and how historically easy his finals runs were. Like I've aways made the case tho lebron carry in 2019 was impressive the hardest comp he faced was a rookie tatum and they went to 7 so it wasn't as big of a deal as some say it one the sole reason he should be the goat
A season with 4 or 5 really bad teams could cause everyone who makes the playoff to have a higher srs, therefore it seems harder because these playoff teams are winning more (unlike in the 80s). How good were the bad teams this year? How good were the bad teams when Kobe played?
2k dislikes wtff? How could you like basketball and dislike this video? Great analysis bro! Keep at it! F the haters
Bru this is what I don’t like abt non athletes talking abt this talking abt it’s easier to play without fans no it’s not it’s actually harder the fans are what make u play better an make u wanna keep playing even when u don’t want to
Bro is always on the case, so analytical and so informative, appreciated.
I subscribed Bc this video was so well done. And you know basketball. Your right not every championship is equal
The best example to proof that the best teams don't always make it into the final is the 2018 world cup where Croatia make it into the finals having a relatively easy path while almost all the favorites to win the tournament were knocking each other out on the other half of the tournament
This shows the toughest playoff opponents, but to truly quantify the toughest championship run we must subtract these numbers by the SRS of the team that won them. I say this because a team with a high SRS can go through a tougher schedule but it is more impressive for a team that isn’t as good go through the same run.
6:03 did you hear that, delusional LBJ fanboys? 90's and early 2000's are EASILY the most competitive eras. You better listen to Jimmy
You corrected yourself about the 2001 Lakers when you shouldn't have. You said 15-1, but the graphic was wrong. The NBA didn't go to a best-of-7 first round until 2003.
The problem is that SRS is based on the regular season, which means it heavily underestimates teams with Lebron James on the roster
Cool metric but definitely seems flawed to mw, for example if you were to beat a bunch of weaker teams in your conference but the have to face MJ bulls or KD warriors in the final you'd actually have a very low score difficulty score but you'd also have a one of the most impressive championships of all time. Basically it doesn't seem to weight the top end of teams heigh enough imo
This is a really strange choice for analytics. Magic beat the best of the best and you're going to fault him for facing bad teams early in the playoffs in a 23 team 80s? Same logic follows for all players mentioned. Love your videos, great presentation, but this one is bunk.
The only mention of the Spurs was about them getting beat and their championship in 99 being real easy. No talk of Tim Duncan...
Magic has five rings! And one was as a rookie, who was a guard, playing center, replacing an injured HOF’er and getting MVP! That trumps everything else!
He shoulda compared other teams to the team that made the run instead of solely basing it off how good the other team was. Would make Jordan’s runs significantly less impressive
Agree: "They all shine just as bright"
Advanced stat SIMPLE rating system
Wasn’t even accurate either
I’d like to see this for runner ups
All that and kd rings still don’t mean a damn thing to me
Great Video and content......buuut no you are not a LeBron fan boy 🤣 you threw him under bus when you didn't even had to .... Not just that you fail to mention how LeBron's teams SRS is barely 0.5 for 4 of those finals appearances and what about 07 Cavs SRS let's not even talk about that 🤣
Kobe and Shaq best duo in my opinion
If the 2016 thunder didn’t blow that 3-1 they would have beat the cavs what would be their srs
What about matchups!? You can tell that these number crunchers never played basketball! Numbers do lie
The one thing that stay doesn't take account for is matchups.
These numbers are interesting. The only problem I have if that you aren't considering the team itself. Saying the early 2000s Lakers rings were the hardest because of competition is disingenuous because of how much better the Lakers were. To me, Dirks championship and LeBron's 2016 championship are the most impressive because of the competition, but also what they were working with on their team.
94-95 Rockets hands down
You can’t use SRS which is taken from regular season stats and use it for a playoffs stat🤦🏻♂️ it doesn’t make sense whatsoever, the bucks were by far the best record last season so what? They got swept in the 2nd round.... this is just stupid
That’s stupid, i don’t need numbers to know the hardest championship ever won was the 3-1 comeback against the 73-9 team...
Poor kid
At the end of the game it doesn't matter how hard or how easy you win a ring all that matters is that you won
Skip bayless grabbed his lotion while watchin this video
lame asf jody. i had huge respect for you. but this shit is lame asf and you know it.
98' championship was probably the most difficult championship for an individual player. Bulls were literally the oldest aged team in the history of NBA to win a championship. Jordan was 35, Pippen was 33, Rodman was 37, Harper 34, Kerr 33, Kukoc 32, Wennington 35. Pippen was battling back injuries, Rodman was having issues and played limited minutes, Ron Harper had bad knees. Jordan had to hard carry his team to the championship and basically did all the offense himself. In one of the Finals games he scored 45 pts of the Bulls total 82 pts.
Another hater......So you wouldn’t take the pandemic in racial justice in consideration you should delete this video.
The numbers don't lie. This is the best and only way to compare rings
This is one of the reasons why MJ is far better tha james bcoz those 6-0 nba finals records are not a walk in the park.Those were tough grueling battles where most teams are equally good,while most of james title wins were a product of his super teams vs weaker teams
and Hakeem swept Shaq that year so this is not making sense
How is coming back from a 3-1 lead not the hardest championship ever???????????
Miami beat that bucks team with a grade of 9. Something... that was not an easy thing to do I give my props to bron
5:52 to all the LeBron haters 😎
So Kobe had 3 of the 5 hardest runs to the NBA finals....interesting you may continue
As a sixers fan seeing the 2001 Lakers as the 2nd hardest path bothers me.. I just wish we somehow won so AI would have a ring
We gonna just gloss over how Olajuwon, Drexler, and the 95 Rockets won the hardest fought ring of the last 37 years??? Ok.
8:26 Slap that to LeBron's haters😆
Lakers went 15-1 2001 season. They only beat Portland 3 times (best of 5). It wasn’t until 2003 that the first round went to best of 7.
The early 2000’s is the most defensive era in basketball. A 20ppg scorer means much more then than now
Or the league changed and now 3s made players average more points , no defender was actively guarding the 3 as much then I will say the league was more physical and rough then
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It is always assuring to know that Kobe Bryant is the greatest of all time #BlackMambaOut!!
i disagree. Danny Green’s rings shine a little less bright than everyone else’s
It's a very light ring due to no home/away games and them winning the lottery with getting to face trash teams but IT IS NOT AN ASTERISK. I can't stand it when people say that lol Doesn't matter anyway because the Cavs win over GSW was one of the heaviest.
Bad math. SRS automatically increases with expansion. That math is automatic. Top teams now have watered down teams to beat. Also the East during the eighties were brutal. The more balanced the division the lower the SRS. You can see that math, right? The Lakers walked to the finals, all but one year, in an incredibly soft West but then faced an actual tough opponent. In the 90's Jordan drove everybody out of the East, even Shaq, and then faced a tougher Western opponent. That led to the Lakers having tougher opponents in the West than in the finals. That plus the expansion of the league throughout the previous decade watering the league down. The only truths about that chart is the Rockets had a tough title and Lebron had easy titles. Sociology often has bad math as it has too many variables and the league changed to much from one era to another.
Those Laker runs weren't easy. I'm not shocked but i'm surprised. Kinda shows how good Kobe, Shaq and that team was
Kobe and Shaqs Lakers wha unstoppable
Dallas 2011 was special
Dang I thought you were going to discuss the hardest ring year, it seemed like it’d be a wild story.
yo, legit great video bro, loved the way you ended it
Rockets sixth seed to glory damn
Kobe and shaq officially better than magic and Kareem
You can’t base this off numbers. Point blank
Amazing video 💯
isn’t that how being the 1st seed works
Then Bronsexuals put all credit to LeBRON, “He did all the carry”. Huh tf?! AD was the 1st Option last year and carried them from Regular Season to 1st round till WCF with way better stats then Lebron selfish wanna take 1st opt to get FMVP to varnish his tainted legacy.
The 2000 and 2001 Lakers had the hardest championship runs I've ever seen. one of those teams which only won 56 games in regular season because they were coasting, had to go through 3 50 win teams to get their championship. I think the Lakers may actually have had to go through every round of that playoffs facing a 50 plus win team.
How about calculating the SRS from the games only inside the bubble? Because comparing the incomplete 2020 seasons versus Full season doesn't give a complete picture. With almost everyone out of shape, due to the gap in playing, I think the SRS would be lesser than 7.46
it is completely flawed
You should take the difference of Champs SRS and their Opp SRS the tougher team ofc will undoubtly have easier time facing teams
Nope only rings matter Robert horry better than mj and bron
me: ohh i wonder how this will play out him: it doesnt matter me:
A not bias basketball fan u should replace nick wright as an analyst!
Houston's 1995 Chip is the hardest ever one.
How come 2000 is in the 2000’s category but 2020 is in the 2010’s category
@xinc but the 2000 season is 1999-2000 so surely that would be in the 1990’s category
Cause it was the 2019-2020 season
A ring is a ring
SRS is flawed. Theoretically you could have a 4-game sweep and have an SRS of 2.0 and you could win a 7-game series with an SRS of 10.0. Any sane human being would pick the sweep as the more dominant win. The Lakers 16-1 playoff record proves how flawed it is.
There is a lot of bad correlations and bad math here
This is maaaad interesting. Good shit!!
I understand it’s one of the easiest paths to the finals based on opponents but I don’t think you can fault them because the other good playoff teams like the the clippers and the bucks lost to those weaker opponents while the lakers sustained all the way.
The Spurs would have been in like 15 NBA finals on the last 20 years if they were an eastern conference team.
Tbh i thought dirks ring was the hardest kobe okc miami...
"The Mickey Mouse Rec League Championship" XD I remember Shaq talks big about championships w/ asterisks, cuz the 2002 NBA Championship should have it, everyone knows the WCF was rigged in favour of the Lakers (vs the Kings), and that's a much easier title (vs Nets) to win than the 2020 championship.
If the 04 pistons didn't meet the that stacked Lakers team in the finals what would their championship run look like in terms of difficulty?
So 2 of 4 lebron wins are 3 th and 4 th easiest
Surprised to see the 2013 heat so low I mean they barely scrapped a finals title
That's why the mamba is better !!!!!
It depends on what team you have so that should have an effect on it
The completely negates the fact that the nba was expanded, teams that were trying to get a title locked like the bulls/pistons/ lakers/ Celtics had there stars locked down on contract. The league was being watered down and this lead to a number disproportionate number of good teams with good records. Plus now with the basketball being a world sport there are so many more talent to choose from and all teams will be closer and the bench will be closer to the starters. Year to year context is forgotten
There is a flaw in srs. It doesn't take into account injuries in the playoffs for example Kawhi's injury in 2016.
2011 Mavs or def one of the Jordan rings
Not a fair indicator. The srs based on the regular season. Most vet teams are a different team during the offseason
Lebron is such a fraud
LMAO Lebron ain’t no Goat
Doesn't the IRS have to change when a team pulls an upset against another team with a higher IRS? Or is that already accounted for?
2:22 Magic have to go through Bad Boy Pistons ; Larry Bird Celtics ; Dr J Sixers ; George Gervin / Artis Gilmore Spurs ; Hakeem Olajuwon Rockets how the fuck its 5 easiest ring like this system is in some crack Also how the fuck 2012 Heat have higher SRS when 2013 have to go through much more difficult opponents like 2013 Paul George Pacere and Spurs Like this system is wack
Different rules is different rules
Lebron is starting to get real annoying. Like that kid in school that tries to prove hes hard every day and chickens out on the first real test.
That 2020 championship is a joke